Golden Sun Series
Before you mods speak up - No, I couldn't find the old GS Club. Yes, I did look. No, the only thing the search function brought up was GSDS's release announcement thread, which, might I add, is NOT a general discussion about the series. Which this thread is.
Anywho, that being said, this is a place to talk about the Golden Sun series. Where the old topic went is anyone's guess, but hey, we've got this one now I suppose.
Anywho, for those of you who've played the games, you know one thing... Psynergy sucks (compared to the attack command) save for one type - Healing is broken.
So, while fixing the brokenness of the attack command can come later, I have done some stuff for the healing psys:
What about the original's Mercury finishers? Look and lul.
The equations are:
Power to Cost:
Single Healing:
Initial: y = 0.00002889x^2 + 0.08058594x - 0.21219487
Integer: y = 0.00003315x^2 + 0.07996678x - 0.16965387
Multi Healing:
Initial: y = 0.00008608x^2 + 0.11969763x + 1.06834555
Integer: y = 0.00009345x^2 + 0.11582122x + 1.44543298
Power to Level:
Single Healing:
Initial: y = -0.00002918x^2 + 0.10937617x - 4.81437503
Integer: y = -0.0000404x^2 + 0.11412711x - 5.10975823
Multi Healing:
Initial: y = -0.00010203x^2 + 0.17979579x - 0.7573795
Integer: y = -0.00010341x^2 + 0.17998556x - 0.7916075
Elemental Potential:
(Non-Elemental - 115% Base)
Mercury - 100% Base
Venus - 85% Base
Jupiter - 70% Base
Mars - 55% Base
Base Values are:
Single healing: 100, 200, 400, (800)
Multi healing: 80, 160, 320, (640) (or - 80% Single Healing)
4th tier healing spells are included in this example, but are entirely optional.
Non-elemental/Sol Healing not included at this time.
What is Initial vs Integer? Initial is the initial value I plugged in. Integer is the values you'd plug into the game - basically, I took the results from Initial, rounded them to the closest whole number, and plugged it in. The lines are similar, but not exactly the same. Note - 4th Tier psynergies are NOT included in the integer equations, as they are non-standard.
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Anywho, that's my approach to it... your thoughts?
Before you mods speak up - No, I couldn't find the old GS Club. Yes, I did look. No, the only thing the search function brought up was GSDS's release announcement thread, which, might I add, is NOT a general discussion about the series. Which this thread is.
Anywho, that being said, this is a place to talk about the Golden Sun series. Where the old topic went is anyone's guess, but hey, we've got this one now I suppose.
Anywho, for those of you who've played the games, you know one thing... Psynergy sucks (compared to the attack command) save for one type - Healing is broken.
So, while fixing the brokenness of the attack command can come later, I have done some stuff for the healing psys:
Code:
,--------------------------------------------------------.
| Psynergy | Element |Effect| R |Cost| Lv |Anim|Arg|
|--------------------------------------------------------|
| Warm | Mars |c 55| 1 | 4 | 1 | 212| 0 |
| Warm Well | Mars |c 110| 1 | 9 | 7 | 212| 1 |
| Healing Warm | Mars |c 220| 1 | 19 | 18 | 212| 2 |
| Pleasant Warm | Mars |c 440| 1 | 41 | 38 | 212| 3 |*4th Tier
|----------------+---------+------+---+----+----+----+---|
| Calm | Jupiter |c 70| 1 | 6 | 3 | 228| 0 |
| Calm Well | Jupiter |c 140| 1 | 12 | 10 | 228| 1 |
| Pleasant Calm | Jupiter |c 280| 1 | 25 | 24 | 228| 2 |
| Gentle Calm | Jupiter |c 560| 1 | 54 | 47 | 228| 3 |*4th Tier
|----------------+---------+------+---+----+----+----+---|
| Cure | Venus |c 85| 1 | 7 | 4 | 21| 0 |
| Cure Well | Venus |c 170| 1 | 14 | 13 | 21| 1 |
| Potent Cure | Venus |c 340| 1 | 31 | 29 | 21| 2 |
| Perfect Cure | Venus |c 680| 1 | 68 | 56 | 21| 3 |*4th Tier
|----------------+---------+------+---+----+----+----+---|
| Ply | Mercury |c 100| 1 | 8 | 6 | 22| 0 |
| Ply Well | Mercury |c 200| 1 | 17 | 16 | 22| 1 |
| Pure Ply | Mercury |c 400| 1 | 37 | 34 | 22| 2 |
| Earnest Ply | Mercury |c 800| 1 | 83 | 64 | 22| 3 |*4th Tier
|----------------+---------+------+---+----+----+----+---|
| Aura | Mars |c 44|All| 7 | 7 | 71| 0 |
| Warm Aura | Mars |c 88|All| 12 | 14 | 71| 1 |
| Healing Aura | Mars |c 176|All| 25 | 28 | 71| 2 |
| Pleasant Aura | Mars |c 352|All| 54 | 50 | 71| 3 |*4th Tier
|----------------+---------+------+---+----+----+----+---|
| Breeze | Jupiter |c 56|All| 8 | 9 | 228| 0 |
| Calming Breeze | Jupiter |c 112|All| 16 | 18 | 228| 1 |
| Healing Breeze | Jupiter |c 224|All| 32 | 34 | 228| 2 |
| Lively Breeze | Jupiter |c 448|All| 71 | 59 | 228| 3 |*4th Tier
|----------------+---------+------+---+----+----+----+---|
| Heal | Venus |c 68|All| 10 | 11 | 225| 0 |
| Heal Well | Venus |c 136|All| 19 | 22 | 225| 1 |
| Potent Heal | Venus |c 272|All| 40 | 41 | 225| 2 |
| Perfect Heal | Venus |c 544|All| 90 | 67 | 225| 3 |*4th Tier
|----------------+---------+------+---+----+----+----+---|
| Wish | Mercury |c 80|All| 11 | 13 | 23| 0 |
| Wish Well | Mercury |c 160|All| 22 | 25 | 23| 1 |
| Pure Wish | Mercury |c 320|All| 48 | 46 | 23| 2 |
| Earnest Wish | Mercury |c 640|All|109 | 73 | 23| 3 |*4th Tier
`--------------------------------------------------------'
What about the original's Mercury finishers? Look and lul.
Code:
,--------------------------------------------------------.
| Psynergy | Element |Effect| R |Cost| Lv |Anim|Arg|
|--------------------------------------------------------|
| Pure Ply | Mercury |c 1000| 1 |109 | 75 | 22| 2 |
| Pure Wish | Mercury |c 400|All| 62 | 55 | 23| 2 |
`--------------------------------------------------------'
The equations are:
Power to Cost:
Single Healing:
Initial: y = 0.00002889x^2 + 0.08058594x - 0.21219487
Integer: y = 0.00003315x^2 + 0.07996678x - 0.16965387
Multi Healing:
Initial: y = 0.00008608x^2 + 0.11969763x + 1.06834555
Integer: y = 0.00009345x^2 + 0.11582122x + 1.44543298
Power to Level:
Single Healing:
Initial: y = -0.00002918x^2 + 0.10937617x - 4.81437503
Integer: y = -0.0000404x^2 + 0.11412711x - 5.10975823
Multi Healing:
Initial: y = -0.00010203x^2 + 0.17979579x - 0.7573795
Integer: y = -0.00010341x^2 + 0.17998556x - 0.7916075
Elemental Potential:
(Non-Elemental - 115% Base)
Mercury - 100% Base
Venus - 85% Base
Jupiter - 70% Base
Mars - 55% Base
Base Values are:
Single healing: 100, 200, 400, (800)
Multi healing: 80, 160, 320, (640) (or - 80% Single Healing)
4th tier healing spells are included in this example, but are entirely optional.
Non-elemental/Sol Healing not included at this time.
What is Initial vs Integer? Initial is the initial value I plugged in. Integer is the values you'd plug into the game - basically, I took the results from Initial, rounded them to the closest whole number, and plugged it in. The lines are similar, but not exactly the same. Note - 4th Tier psynergies are NOT included in the integer equations, as they are non-standard.
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Anywho, that's my approach to it... your thoughts?