End of the world anyone?

[2chaotic]

End of the world anyone?

For any who might be interested:

Time to brush off your apocolypse theories. Got a new one for ya. (Well, it's not new, been around for awhile but let's bring it to the masses )

Did you know that the world MIGHT end/begin to end/experience life-changing sceintific breakthroughs?

That's right folks. A bunch of old civilizations have pointed to this date, December 21, 2012, as the end of the world. The Mayans, Pueblo, Chinese, Inca, a few african tribes, a few tribes in New Zealand, and many other peoples all say we're all going to die (or something REALLY big will happen on this exact day).

Proof you ask? Take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_Long_Count_calendar#2012_and_the_Long_Count

"But hey, it's just Wikipedia. That's not proof," is what you may be saying right now. Then go scour the internet and watch a few History Channel shows. A bunch of respected scientists who have studied the Mayans have discovered that the Mayans centered their calander based upon thier version of the "End of the World". The made the calandar so it ENDED ON December 12, 2012 A.D.

Last time I checked, calanders DIDN'T END. This one does though. Do you know what's weird about this day though? Something FREAKIN AMAZING happens with the aligment of Earth and Sun on that day. The Sun will align with the DEAD CENTER of the Milky Way galaxy. Astronomers have prooved that much. You will be able to draw a line from Earth through the center of the Sun, and it will pass through the dead center of the Galactic Equator. (the DEAD Center of the Milky Way)

Why is that significant you ask? It may very well not be. There is somethign strange about it though. How could the Mayans, a culture without modern-day technology, predict something so far ahead in teh future like teh winter solstace that will occur on (you guessed it) December 21, 2012, WITH COMPLETE accuracy. Scientists who study the Mayans can't even explain it. Astronomers can't explain it. Again, this is more amazing by the fact that the thing stated in teh previous paragraph will occur on that day.

So more proof you say?

Nostradamus. His predictions are pointing to this as the end of the world. (Not much here that i've researched)

More?

NASA says the Sun's current sunspot cycle will end in 2012. Then the Sun's magnetic poles will shift. Big deal right? Wrong.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10mar_stormwarning.htm

More?

This solar storm may cause the EARTH's poles to shift. Bad news on that one. Then the weather WILL GO INTO SUPER-STERIOIDS-ANTI-LIFE mode. We're talking "The Day after Tommorow" type weather.

More?

The Bible. Revelation anyone? (Sorry, i haven't researched this portion much. I've only begun to read the Revelation anyways.)

More?

Then we've got this weird Timewave theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelty_theory

From description of it, i'm only beginning to understand this "Timewave stuff". From what I've read, it seems that it fits in with the old saying, "We are doomed to repeat History." But it sounds probable if you think about it.

More?

Too bad. I don't have any more info right now, because i've only begun researching it.

I'll have more when i find it.

Discuss. (Ignore the bad typos)

 

[Gemini Star]

"This solar storm may cause the EARTH's poles to shift. Bad news on that one. Then the weather WILL GO INTO SUPER-STERIOIDS-ANTI-LIFE mode. We're talking "The Day after Tommorow" type weather. "

^ This is actually unproven. We don't know what happens when the Earth's magentic poles shift, other than that the iron atoms in hardening molten lava all line up in a different direction. That said, scientist currently believe that the Earth's magnetic poles are also on a cycle similiar to the sun's, except that Earth's lasts for about 5,0000 years instead of 11. (Well, actualy, it's 22 for the full cycle but it switches every eleven years) Since the human race survived the last on in our Egypt-and-Babylonian stage, I'd say the only thing we really have to worry about is what the resulting magnetic surge may do to our electronics.

Just to be safe, I am planning on schedualing any long-distance traveling I might need for the follow day.

 

[Takatofan1986]

I believe the end is near. But i follow the bible, and it says no one will know the date and time. though it could very well be 12/21/12, i hear all the people talking now about that date, and it reminds me of 12/31/99 - 1/1/00

 

[Tcatomon]

Has anyone ever stopped to think the Mayan civilization just got tired of working on calenders THAT FAR IN THE FUTURE!? And that's just when they stopped counting before.. y'know.. their society crumbled into dust?

Also.. every generation has their 'omg the world's ending, repent now or else' sets. It happened in 1900, WWI, WWII, 2000, 6/6/06.. now we're predicting 2012. I've heard about something involving... 2020, I think it was. Also, if you're doing your homework the article on 2012 has more info too.

There's no doubt in my mind the world will end..whenever.. but it will probably involve the sun going super nova in a couple thousand years and burning us all to a crisp. Or just watching our capitalist society crumble under the weight of its own stinky gases.
.. either way I'll be dead and it wont matter anyway because I'll be in the afterlife gleefully enjoying watching humanity turn into the equivalent of ants under a magnifying glass. I sat on my front porch on the eve of 2000 partying it up like it was 1999 while drinking Mountain Dew and was sadly disappointed we didn't get so much as a faint fizzle of a cosmic blackhole.. like a firecracker you spent ten dollars on that you expectantly waited to explode only to be completely disappointed it was a dud. It would certainly break up the monotony of wake up, eat, go to work, come home, game, eat, go to bed, get a paid vacation perhaps two days a year, and then hope to die in my sleep eighty years down the road when I'm too old to enjoy retirement anyway.
But I'm getting off track.
I don't doubt there's enough evidence out there to at least give hints or sick April fools jokes that have spanned a couple million years, but for all it's worth I believe reading the stars is quite an actual thing to determine life, the universe, and everything..we're just too stupid to read the signs because we decided burning people who knew things was much more interesting. All cultures - except for ours - relied on star charts, moon phases, and the position of the sun to determine everything from when to plant crops to when to go fishing. I personally can tell you how to determine how a winter will go by how big is the red sploch on a caterpillar.
But the point I'm trying to make is that none of this changes the fact that at this point in time we simply *don't know*. I could run screaming out into the streets saying that the world will end on a Tuesday of the second month of a year divisible by two and people would take it seriously.
So, while we piddle with our lives we just have to hope after radioactive fall out we're the ones standing at ground zero with a large bottle of scotch and a pair of sunglasses.

 

[guilmon93950]

Has anyone ever stopped to think the Mayan civilization just got tired of working on calenders THAT FAR IN THE FUTURE!? And that's just when they stopped counting before.. y'know.. their society crumbled into dust?

Also.. every generation has their 'omg the world's ending, repent now or else' sets. It happened in 1900, WWI, WWII, 2000, 6/6/06.. now we're predicting 2012. I've heard about something involving... 2020, I think it was. Also, if you're doing your homework the article on 2012 has more info too.

There's no doubt in my mind the world will end..whenever.. but it will probably involve the sun going super nova in a couple thousand years and burning us all to a crisp. Or just watching our capitalist society crumble under the weight of its own stinky gases.
.. either way I'll be dead and it wont matter anyway because I'll be in the afterlife gleefully enjoying watching humanity turn into the equivalent of ants under a magnifying glass. I sat on my front porch on the eve of 2000 partying it up like it was 1999 while drinking Mountain Dew and was sadly disappointed we didn't get so much as a faint fizzle of a cosmic blackhole.. like a firecracker you spent ten dollars on that you expectantly waited to explode only to be completely disappointed it was a dud. It would certainly break up the monotony of wake up, eat, go to work, come home, game, eat, go to bed, get a paid vacation perhaps two days a year, and then hope to die in my sleep eighty years down the road when I'm too old to enjoy retirement anyway.
But I'm getting off track.
I don't doubt there's enough evidence out there to at least give hints or sick April fools jokes that have spanned a couple million years, but for all it's worth I believe reading the stars is quite an actual thing to determine life, the universe, and everything..we're just too stupid to read the signs because we decided burning people who knew things was much more interesting. All cultures - except for ours - relied on star charts, moon phases, and the position of the sun to determine everything from when to plant crops to when to go fishing. I personally can tell you how to determine how a winter will go by how big is the red sploch on a caterpillar.
But the point I'm trying to make is that none of this changes the fact that at this point in time we simply *don't know*. I could run screaming out into the streets saying that the world will end on a Tuesday of the second month of a year divisible by two and people would take it seriously.
So, while we piddle with our lives we just have to hope after radioactive fall out we're the ones standing at ground zero with a large bottle of scotch and a pair of sunglasses.

Actually the sun doesn't go super nova for millions of years. It will go red giant first, which will burn us all, but that won't be for hundreds of thousands of years anyway.

On the topic of 2012, I've been aware of it for a while and have been gleefully awaiting it. I really hope something epic happens. I'm sick of monotony, and I really want to just get back to trying to survive.

 

[PrimoPiccolo]

every generation has their 'omg the world's ending, repent now or else' sets. It happened in 1900, WWI, WWII, 2000, 6/6/06.. now we're predicting 2012.

I agree with your entire post, especially this part.

I really don't get why everyone cares about when the world's ending, anyway. Can we do anything to stop it? If so, great. If not, big deal. I had fun, I made friends, and we all die someday anyway. In fact, if we go up in flames together, that'd be a lot cooler than randomly getting hit by a bus, don'cha think?

 

[digiboy123]

Nostradamus. His predictions are pointing to this as the end of the world. (Not much here that i've researched)

Actually, if you watched the History channel, it talked about Nostradamus' predictions. Kinda scary. Talks about constellations and the zodiac sign, and that on the 21, it will align with the 13th zodiac sign or something. Don't fully remember.

It happened in 1900, WWI, WWII, 2000, 6/6/06.. now we're predicting 2012.

Uh, no, we're not predicting this. The ancient peoples are. Or at least people that died centuries ago. I'd believe someone from ages ago before I would someone from this time.

2012 is scary to think about. And I'd rather not think about it, because I'd rather live freely without worry. If it something does happen, I just hope it's painless, at least.

And I agree with Takatofan. The Bible says that NO ONE will know the end of time, so this makes me think that, as a believer, that nothing will happen on the 21st. But who knows.

And I say we'll all die before we get to 2012 because of the Large Hadron Collider. THE MIST ANYONE?>@!?

 

[Zelsius]

it will align with the 13th zodiac sign or something.

The cat's time will finally come! All you rat people, just you wait!

On a more serious note... uh, this thread is so much nonsense, a serious note wouldn't fit.

 

[Tixer]

The world isn't going to end because of a certain date, as the concept of time is a human creation.

Unless we screw ourselves over between now and then, nothing's going to change.

 

[Echo]

Last I checked, December 21, 2012 was only the Mayan date 13.0.0.0.0, and certainly not the end of their calender... 13 is only 'bad' in Christian culture; it has no paticular significance to Mayan culture.

As for predicting winter solstices and whatnot, any sophisticated culture with a concrete understanding in solar cyles can acurately predict things like that. Computus is an example; that's the calculation of the date of Easter, and was only finalised with the introduction of the Gregorian Calender. It's a mathematical formula, is closely tied to lunar cyles/full moons/vernal equinox and has nothing at all to do with Mayan culture, just like the number 13. Every separate calender system has their own cycles and, naturally, their own significant dates. What I'd like to know is why each one of these dates has to mean the end of the world... I mean, why can't it just be a day to hand out free Milo or something? That's much nicer, and fits well with the commercial standing of modern culture.

So, to me, the day after 13.0.0.0.0 will be 13.0.0.0.1. 'Cos, y'know, that's how calenders work. The fact that 13.0.0.0.0 was singled out just seems like a bad case of triskaidekaphobia to me. And hey, if it is the end of the world, I agree with PrimoPiccolo. It was good while it lasted, and a change is as good as a holiday! So what's the point of wasting one's time stressing out over something that may or may not happen? What'll come will come, and I'll deal with it then.

Say... if the world is going to end, I better write my next book on something more substantial than paper... Or, even better, we should erect a massive bluestone McDonald's 'M' and engrave it with the lyrics to 'Bohemian Rhapsody' in foot-high letters for no reason other than to confuse future civilizations ;P

 

[Tcatomon]

Uh, no, we're not predicting this. The ancient peoples are. Or at least people that died centuries ago. I'd believe someone from ages ago before I would someone from this time.

I mean that more in context of we as a modern day people are retarded and seem to enjoy some sick pleasure out of predicting when judgment day is. We've been freaking out about the end of the world since year 1. People in the 1800's freaked out that the end of times would be 1900, then we panicked in 2000.. I know people who went all apeshit about 6/6/06. It's an endless and stupid circle.

Personally I'd find it ironically funny if the end of days was Dec 11th, 2012. The higher powers would laugh and say "HA fooled you!" *BLAM*

 

[digiboy123]

06/06/06? Lol, now I didn't believe that one. Ridiculous.

But yeah, I'd like if people could leave well and well enough alone. It'd be too bad if one of them happened to be right though, ne?

 

[Tcatomon]

Heaven forbid.. */sarcasm*

 

[StelarSX]

Isn't it some sort of Solar Flare that's so huge that it's going to destroy all electricity and burn our agriculture?

 

[Trivial]

Everything in this whole university is always changing
Nothing stays the same

This include a change that could make some de-stabilization of the universe which could lead to a total destroy, and return to zero

 

[Rocknote]

Sure it is possible but our fate is in our own hands so I think THE END will be reversed one day.